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Re: [lammps-users] questions on tmp.profile


From: "JhonY. I." <yijhon@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:35:15 +0000

Thanks a lot for your advices really, Matt and Vikas.
I've tested variation of conditions on fix thermal/condcutivity and fix ave/spatial. 

As best one among them, I've got attached result (figure.jpg) using
fix 3 all ave/spaitial 200 1000 20000 z lower 1.4345 .....
fix flux all thermal/conductivity 40 z 24 swap 2
 
It seems that the tmp profile near thermal sink (1st layer) is too steep while tmp profile seems somewhat fine in other region including that of thermal source (14 layer).
This (problem on abstruptness near thermal sink) has been the common tendency in my other tests in which the condition is varied (I've also tested frequency of 20 or 25 instead of 40 in "fix thermal/conductivity command").
 
How about the result? Will it be fine in spite of it?
Otherwise, should I take more optimal data?
 
It is hard to take better profile near thermal sink.
Is there any recommendable way to get good data near thermal sink region?
 

Cheers,

  Luke

 

Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:56:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [lammps-users] questions on tmp.profile
From: vv0210@gmail.com
To: matt@hec.utah.edu
CC: yijhon@hotmail.com; lammps-users@lists.sourceforge.net

In addition to Matt's suggestion, again it helps if you post a graph instead of putting the numbers in a table form, especially for the question you are asking.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Matt K. Petersen <matt@hec.utah.edu> wrote:
It looks to me like you need to sample longer, and/or swap more
frequently.  Don't use fewer bins.
Matt


Quoting "JhonY. I." <yijhon@hotmail.com>:

>
> I've got temperature profile to get thermal conducitivity using
> "thermal conductivity using fix" and "thermal/conductivity and fix
> ave/spatial" commands.
>
> The result is as follows.
>
> 101000 25
>   1 -0.7175 0 0
>   2 0.7175 23.69 291.21
>   3 2.1525 24.31 299.481
>   4 3.5875 16 315.053
>   5 5.0225 16 303.967
>   6 6.4575 16 298.175
>   7 7.8925 16 308.913
>   8 9.3275 23.84 281.964
>   9 10.7625 24.16 281.042
>   10 12.1975 16 290.864
>   11 13.6325 16 307.152
>   12 15.0675 16 309.009
>   13 16.5025 16 304.191
>   14 17.9375 23.35 339.291
>   15 19.3725 24.65 311.915
>   16 20.8075 16 313.163
>   17 22.2425 16 304.582
>   18 23.6775 16 300.64
>   19 25.1125 16 282.925
>   20 26.5475 23.56 280.165
>   21 27.9825 24.44 292.552
>   22 29.4175 16 298.56
>   23 30.8525 16 295.138
>   24 32.2875 16 289.97
>   25 33.7225 16 271.865
> ...
>
> The direction of thrmal propation is z axis.
> The z length was 34.439999 A and I determine delta of "fix
> ave/spatial command" as 34.439999/24 ~ 1.435 A since I use 24 bins
> in "fix thermal/conducitivity command".
>
>
> I think the first 1 layer of the result is the same with 25 layer
> (34.439999 - 0.7175 ~ 33.7225)
>
> and the 1 layer may be ignored. (It should appear by a certain bug
> of LAMMPS, I guess)
>
>
> The result does not show monotonous trend but exhibit. somewhat rugged form.
> Thus, I increase the delta two times (2.87 A) and change swap number
>  from 1 to 2 and the corresponding result is
>
> as follows.
>
>
> 101000 13
>   1 -1.435 0 0
>   2 1.435 48 304.582
>   3 4.305 32 299.893
>   4 7.175 32 296.51
>   5 10.045 48 279.546
>   6 12.915 32 303.297
>   7 15.785 32 314.86
>   8 18.655 48 346.408
>   9 21.525 32 320.751
>   10 24.395 32 288.373
>   11 27.265 48 279.248
>   12 30.135 32 292.802
>   13 33.005 32 261.722
>
>
>
> It still does not show monotonous linear form.
>
> In spite of it, Is it all right? May I take dT/dz as
> (346.408-261.722)/(33.005-18.655).
>
>
> Otherwise, should I have more monotonous result and should it has
> more linear shape?
> If so, what points should I check in running the simulation to get
> such a result?
>
>
>
> Is it common to determine delta to be  length/(number of bins of
> "fix themal/conducitivity command") as such in my first try?
> Otherwise, should it be multiple of it or so generally?
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
>    Luke
>
>
>
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Dr. Matt K. Petersen,
Center for Biophysical Modeling and Simulation
and Department of Chemistry,
University of Utah
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